First Baptist Church of Crystal Springs

In 2012, it is utterly unconscionable that a couple be denied a wedding ceremony in a church because of their ethnicity.

If the church wants to exclude someone for being gay, while it is not okay with me, I understand that they have a theological stance. We will see that change over time.

Since this is a case of bigotry bullshit on the behalf of some congregants, it is deplorable.
Oh I am sorry, was I using words to big for you to follow? Let me try in a different direction…

First Baptist Church of Crystal Springs, you suck ass and I doubt that you will get any glory from God on this one. You are bring shame on the Baptist faith, as most have moved away from the narrow minded believes of the pre-civil war era. SHAME on your rotten asses. It does need to be said that some members of the church was offended by this act, and they bear the burden of this listing even though they did not earn it.

Repent and resolve to become better people. I do not think that it is how God wanted us to behave with one another.

 

To Charles and Te’Andrea Wilson: I am sorry that you had to go through this experience. May God’s blessings bring you much joy and love through your new life together. You will be stronger from here forth.

13 thoughts on “First Baptist Church of Crystal Springs

  1. Well, the "church" has apologized to the couple via their website.
    The couple were not aware of the apology until the press asked about it.

    This shitlist entry will remain until I am satisfied that the "church" is once again truly a church.

    1. Apologizing AFTER the couple had to move the wedding to a strange venue instead of the church they attended, seems a bit hollow.

      "I'm sorry we cut your legs off, but now we have a great wheelchair that we will sell you at a marvelous discount!"

  2. I am saddened that the members of this church congregation can look at themselves in the mirror for such an act. They need to go back and re-read the New Testament while looking inward to their heart. Then, they need to get on their knees, pray for forgiveness, and repent of their sin. In doing so, they also need to go individually to this couple with an attitude of humility and sincerity in person and ask them for their forgiveness.

    1. Yes, I found this to be a disturbing event. I had hoped for more from them than a blind web posting to issue their apology to the couple.With a little love and guidance, they will get themselves back onto a good path.

  3. while part of my "gets" the notion you ascribe that the bigotry shown here…

    If the church wants to exclude someone for being gay, while it is not okay with me, I understand that they have a theological stance. We will see that change over time.

    …I'm not sure if it is really that different. Sure, it may seem like apples and oranges today, because of social norms, but if you think about it… is it really?

    Why can't there just as easily be some asinine religion that thinks that some race is superior to another because of their religious beliefs? e.g. THAT is part of their theological stance in the same way. Why not?

    In fact, I believe my friend Eyes Open here just the other day was sounding off on how the Bible actually wasn't exactly anti-slavery (although perhaps that wasn't in a racial context).

    or put it another way… all of that business about how we are created in God's image. Surely some take that to mean a certain way, and so, they basically like to think that God is white. Sounds ridiculous, perhaps, but social norms aside… is that really so different than the religious attitudes that come into the marriage equality issue?

      1. Reality, since you espouse views that indicate you hate people (by certain standards), then why shouldn't we wonder that you might intend to do violence upon those same people?

        I realize there is a difference. but then, doesn't one thing lead to another?

        Isn't hatred a gateway to violence? If so, shouldn't someone stand up and act as a gatekeeper?

        what a concept: it is precisely the race-haters themselves who should lead society in how to work out the dispute non-violently!

        I honestly suspect you are smart enough to see a logic there.

        1. I guess I do indeed hate people (by certain standards) .. 'tho those 'standards' bend more towards "evil" people (yeah – Kinda subjective), than 'specifically' by racial or ethnic standards.

          "Isn't hatred a gateway to violence?"
          I guess if that is accepted, then one would have to accept that "Pot is a gateway to Heroin" ?? .. neither of which I am sure about.

          I believe, that society is circling the abyss at an ever increasing rate, and 'these things' are never going to be peacefully resolved.

          "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
          (Ok .. Not sure what that has to do with anything .. I just like the comment .. heh!)

          1. So you think that hatred isn't a gate way to violence? It sure seems to be in this case.

            I anticipate and appreciate your "society is all going to hell" point. But that doesn't excuse either of these recent nutsos.

            Do you condone this guy in any way whatsoever?

    1. "…I'm not sure if it is really that different. Sure, it may seem like apples and oranges today, because of social norms, but if you think about it… is it really? "

      No it isn't, but as you say, the social norms allow it at the moment. That is changing, I believe in 40 years we will look back on this time the same as the 50s and 60s with black civil rights and the 20s and 30s with women's rights.

      And yes, the bible never speaks against slavery, and the Old Testaments actually gives rule on how to treat slaves, including their worth, how to punish them and how to sell your own daughter into slavery. Whether or not it has any racial component is debatable, "you may enslave people of other nations and tribes". Other nations and tribe may or may not be translated from the original meaning of other races, depends on which scholar you ask.

  4. Philemon in the NT was about Philemon accepting back a run away slave named Onesimus. Paul made intercession on Onesimus' behalf, stating that before Onesimus was worthless to Philemon, but now that Onesimus was a Christian, he would be so much better.

    Better what? A better slave

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