Should Illegals Be Shocked Upon Deportation?

With the new shift in deportation, we saw the Latino community flip out when a woman who was in the US since 14 was deported.
This is one sample case:
When a person knows that they are in the US illegally and have been for a long time, I lose sensitivity when they have not taken steps to become a citizen. I know that the process is not easy, but you have to at least work on it.
It is not a secret that I despise T-Rump, but this is an area where I support his position.
If you are an illegal alien, please start the process to getting your green card and hopefully citizenship. We want you here, but you have to do it in the correct way.

Amnesty vs Path to Citizenship – We Cannot Afford Either

We have seen the fight between the politicians and the citizenry over the issue of illegals.

I am not going to with some wimp assed semantecs over illegal vs undocumented alien. Other than to call them what they are; aliens who are here illegally, hence the phrase.

So we have an estimated 11 million illegal aliens in the country.

I have said it before and I will say it again, I do not care what country they come from. I am not a racist… I just want them to arrive legally.

Before you even start with the whole stupid line of remarks about how white people were the first illegals let’s get this out of the way too.

Even the “Native Americans” (hereafter referred to as Indians (that is another topic)) came here from another continent.

There were no immigration laws until there was a government who saw need for them.

When the economy is strong, we tend to take a more lazaire faire attitude. If it isn’t posing us a direct financial impact we let it slide.

With our household finances, when times get tight we have to find ways to save (those who are smarter don’t feed the pig to begin with) money wherever we can.

Now the government on the other hand when faced with this doesn’t seem to notice the needs changing. They just keep spending and giving stuff away. Money that is not THEIRS to give. It is ours for them to look after. We have entrusted it to them.

11 millions people inside the country illegally; some just over stayed their visas, others came in illegally to begin with.

Our government has chosen to bring in people for high tech jobs with claims that we don;t have viable candidates locally. This year they are giving more visas than their are jobs for. Shit we even have high tech visas for ENTRY LEVEL positions… wait what?!? for every level? Isn’t the definition of entry level a position that a beginner can do?  Are they expecting us to believe that we don’t have some high school grads that cannot fill those jobs? Does’;t corporate America have a responsibility to have a pathway to employment? (well the phrase works for illegals right?) Why should business think that they can just decide that they hire experts only for every role. Sure you want experts… train them.

Unemployment has been bad, and devastating in the teen markets. They don’t need more hurdles thrown in their way.

Corporate America is wanting the moon, but only wanting to pay for a model rocket, or perhaps a stomp rocket. Corporate America feel that they should set the job requirements for college degrees for (seemingly) an job within their organizations. I am not knocking upper education, as it is a wonderful thing, but is it really required? Don’t you think that life education can count for something? I have over 30 certifications from Microsoft (and others) but they do not equal a college degree to an employer. can a brand new college graduate do all that I can? Sure after they have a long time in the field like I have. My experience truly includes blood, sweat and tears.

So since corporate America wants to push for the education, do they bolster the student loans? How about push for lower tuition and books? no, no no… that would make too much sense. They choose to grant in state tuition for criminals who slipped into this county in a variety of ways.  Now some kids, were dragged along as baggage… As a dear friend said (as best as I remember) if a dad steam a car and gives it to their teenager, does the teenager get to keep it? NO! It is still a stolen car.

Where else are illegals costing us?

Medical costs are debatable, but I think that if you are not supposed to be here, then we should not have to pay. If my license to drive has been suspended and I drive anyway, resulting in an my being rear ended who is at fault? Me, for being on the road in the first place.  The same principle applies doesn’t it?,

Aren’t we spending too much on translation services?

With all of these extra costs, they want to give green cards to everyone here that didn’t come the right way.

That just spits in the faces of all of those who did do the right thing in their path to become Americans.

We have a solid pathway to citizenship already.

If a person has a green card, I am quite happy to help with getting through the test, improving language skills, etc..

Would another amnesty help? Sure, those that can start working above the table, could start working towards a retirement. Politicians who were able to stand there and say that they helped the illegals get legal… sure they would be better off as long as the newly legal  made it worth their wile to cover the loss of those who opposed their actions.  Would farmers prosper? they would have to start doing things legally themselves.  They already should be… but we know the truth.

We cannot harbor criminals.

We cannot afford it

We cannot keep doing this.

We cannot.


Is it really an imposition to ask for…

The Supreme Court has rules that states cannot ask for any more ID that the initial form to register a voter…

They find that it is too much of an imposition to ask that there be more enforcement than a simple check-box to have the signer note that they are a citizen unless penalty of perjury.

Is it really?

In most states I have to present local ID to pay by check.

In some states to use an ATM card, one must present legal ID.

To get a library card, one must normally present legal ID.

To cash a paycheck, one must present ID.


The law requires that a person voting for a federal candidate, they must be a citizen, but we will just take their word for it.

Why is it too intrusive? We are not talking about a poll tax as the cost for a state issued ID is minimal. Shit, make it free if they can show financial hardship!


All state issued ID’s should require proof of citizenship.

The other night I had my first person with a Tribal ID card. You bet I took it, as it is LEGAL ID, and it was not expired.

If I am presented with a  Marticula Consular card, I will not admit that person to the bar. If my employer wants to permit it, that is fine and I will submit my two weeks notice on the spot. (My day job requires e-verify so I am covered there)


We have laws that have served us well with common sense for ages. Yes, we have had crap laws (and still do) that were stricken as they were discriminatory or contrary to the Constitution or Bill of Rights. This is not one of those situations.

It is high time that the states start asserting their rights and opt out of assisting the federal government with various areas within their authority until the feds re-discover the fact that they are not the end all, be all of our country’s well being.


Dog the Bounty Hunter, the latest threat against Snowden

Dog the Bounty Hunter has sworn to bring Snowden back to American, though what ever illegal means he can find.

And just who has offered a billion dollar reward for his return? The government isn’t allowed to hire mercenaries or brake international law in pursuit of the accused, so who is backing this?

Immigration, both legal and illegal, is bad for the economy and job growth.

A study by the Center for Immigration Studies, as reported by the Washington Post, has echoed reports done during the Reagan administration, proving that immigration is bad for the economy. All job gains since the year 2000 have gone to immigrants, while native born worker unemployment numbers continue to increase. With the current immigration reform bill on the House floor including a “Path to Citizenship for all Illegal Immigrants” should we be inviting in more job seekers when the present population can’t find jobs?


By Eyes_Open

Armed Survivors

I’m adding this little areas to the deck for stories of cases where firearms saved lives, or ended an otherwise bad situation. The general media has little time to report on such incidents, because they don’t bring in the ratings or aren’t within the political beliefs of the editor/owners of the network, so I thought we could post the stories we find in small town papers for balance.

By Eyes_Open

Nullification Lives On

The Michigan House of Representatives unanimously voted in favor of House bill 5768. A bill which states that no state employee can assist in any way with the federal government carrying out actions pursuant to section 1021 of the national defense authorization act. An act which authorizes the federal government to detain indefinitely and without cause anyone. The 2012 NDAA reeks of McCarty era politics, now states are standing up and saying NO we are not going back to that dark time.

Should the federal government be allowed to bypass all due process in pursuit of their assumed enemy?

Are the states right to fight back against this act that would give the federal government absolute authority in detaining citizens?

Is it too much of a hardship to ask for ID to vote?

I tested the waters on this one yesterday on my personal Facebook account and got some pretty good hits.

So I thought I would open the topic up to the world.
Every state in the union requires that you be a US citizen to vote, and there is a reminder to this by the check box on the registration form. Now they say that the only voter fraud has been ten votes. Remember when I was still listed as a felon due to miscommunication between the states? Technically I was not illegible to vote, though I certainly did, and in a few presidential elections. (It has all been cleared up, so I am back to being perfectly legal as it should have been before)

Pennsylvania and eight other states require photo ID in order to vote.
The more liberal of my party (an I am sure more from across the board) fee that the cost of a state ID card is a poll tax and therefor is a deterrent to voting. In the case of Pennsylvania a non-drivers license (as Oregon calls it) is only $13.50 for five years. I have a hard time feeling that it would deter many form voting.
I had heard over the weekend that one in four blacks would not be able to vote if that were upheld. REALLY? one in FOUR?!? How the hell are they cashing their checks, writing checks, buying liquor (malt or other), flying, getting hotels, accessing secure areas, going to a bar, etc.

The birther holdouts

What is the draw for the birthers?
Why is do they have to keep up with the lies and smokescreens?

Is it the one point that they think can nullify a President that they do not like?

Here we have Donald Trump in a heated debate on the subject, but offering NOTHING as proof.
For such a powerful man, it seems outside of his normal oddness.

When will it end? Have you seen ANYTHING that may lead you to follower the birther movement?

Dual Citizenship and Politics

Yesterday, Michelle Bachman claimed her Swiss citizenship.

Now that she has multiple allegiances, should she be permitted to remain in federal office?

Granted , her state should be permitted to determine what they will require of their representation…

Should the Senate and the House allow it? If they do allow it, should her options on committees be limited?