Back to the gun issue again

The gun issue is hitting the surface again…

http://www.rollcall.com/news/coburn_schumer_lock_horns_over_gun_control-219542-1.html?pos=hbtxt

Senate Armed Services Chairman Carl Levin, D-Mich., offered an agreement to set up consideration of a set of amendments, including a Coburn proposal to make it more difficult to keep veterans from owning guns. Schumer objected when he learned the amendment was in the queue.

 

Really?  We are going to mess with vets and their ability to have firearms? Over my dead body…

I will find another topic for tomorrow.

14 thoughts on “Back to the gun issue again”

      1. If we're going to test vets, because they are vets, then we should also test couples when they announce their engagement. They should have to pass both a mental and morality test before they can marry, if they fail they can still marry but they must be sterilized to prevent them from having children that they will either abuse or abandon to the public trust. Hmm… that actually sounds like a reasonable law to propose…..

          1. Which part, you must be more specific?

            Why should we test potential parents? For the same reason we should test vet, no real reason at all. But, wouldn't it be just as bad to allow people we know would be abusive parents to have children as it would to allow vets that we know have emotional trouble to have weapons?

  1. Mark

    Mark was walking down the street when he was accosted by a particularly dirty and shabby-looking homeless man who asked him for a couple of dollars for dinner.

    Mark took out his wallet, extracted ten dollars and asked, "If I give you this money, will you buy some beer with it instead of dinner?"

    "No, I had to stop drinking years ago," the homeless man replied.

    "Will you use it to go fishing instead of buying food?" Mark asked.

    "No, I don't waste time fishing," the homeless man said. "I need to spend all my time trying to stay alive."

    "Will you spend this on deer corn to hunt deer instead of food?" Mark asked.

    "Are you NUTS!" replied the homeless man. "I haven't hunted in 20 years!"

    "Well," said Mark, "I'm not going to give you money. Instead, I'm going to take you home for a shower and a terrific dinner cooked by my wife."

    The homeless man was astounded. "Won't your wife be furious with you for doing that???

    Mark replied, "That's okay. It's important for her to see what a man looks like after he has given up drinking, fishing and hunting!"

  2. Many who have served in the military do come home with mental issues to resolve.Putting a kid 18-21 years old in such situations can cause mental stress that will take years of therapy for many of them,but to deny the right to own a gun is one of the rights he was sworn to protect when he raised his right hand to defend the constitution of the United States.Vets should not be screened for gun owning any more than the general population.Crazy people should never be allowed to own a gun regardless of their military,or lack of status.

    1. Absolutely vets should be allowed to have guns – generally.

      But also vets themselves should be the first to appreciate the severity of their experience and their special role – with many important facets – in society as they lead out their lives as honored and appreciated for their sacrifice.

      This means that, in some ways, their sacrifice does not end when the war ends. There is a price they pay and take with them for the rest of their lives.

      And, among other things, this too affects and complicates how we balance their Constitutional rights to gun ownership and possession… with public safety.

      Military or no, those who demonstrate indications of mental illness should not be allowed near guns.

  3. Yet another shooting, now in Connecticut.

    27 REPORTED KILLED IN CT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SHOOTING…
    AP: 18 Children Among The Dead… Witness Heard '100 Rounds' Of Gunfire… Reports: Gunman Was School Parent… CNN: Principal, School Psychologist Killed…

    too bad none of the teachers or students also possessed a fire-arm. That would have stopped this guy right away so that no one would have been hurt. Clearly we need to have more guns, and less gun control, to improve the situation in America today.

    1. Yeah, why let facts stand in the way of emotional, knee jerk, non-solution legislation. While you're at it, maybe you can find a virgin to throw into a volcano.

      "As for rifles, they are used even less than body parts, blunt instruments or sharp objects to commit murder.

      In 2011, more murders were committed by knives (1,694), hands, fists and feet (728) and blunt weapons such as clubs and hammers (496), according to FBI data."

      "The number of murders in the U.S. in 2011 committed with rifles: 323." http://blogs.marketwatch.com/election/2013/01/16/http://www.gunbanfacts.com/assault-weapons/articl

      And that 323 is for all rifles, so the number of sporting rifle (so called "assault weapon") murders is significantly less.

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